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it is a miracle that ronald reagan won 49 states without fox news, rush limbaugh, sean hannity, drudge report, with the network's dominant and "the washington post" and "the new york times" ascended. mitt romney is being undone by some conspiracy out of a 7- eleven in falls church? [laughter] >> there was no other reagan. was unique and a political actor unlike any we have seen. putting mitt against him is unfair. he is not a great campaigner. i think he would be a great president, but he is not a great campaigner. evan is right. if the polls are 0.9% in one direction, there probably true. -- 90% in one direction, they are probably true. but you have to apply a formula by who is likely to show up. if you apply the model of the 2008 electorate, you get one result, highly pro-obama. but if you say the electorate will look more like 2004, then the race is even. i think that is the only argument that you could make. not a conspiracy, it is which way you model the electorate, how it breaks down on election day. >> we have a debate coming up, nina. what is your advice to mitt romney? how to
it is a miracle that ronald reagan won 49 states without fox news, rush limbaugh, sean hannity, drudge report, with the network's dominant and "the washington post" and "the new york times" ascended. mitt romney is being undone by some conspiracy out of a 7- eleven in falls church? [laughter] >> there was no other reagan. was unique and a political actor unlike any we have seen. putting mitt against him is unfair. he is not a great campaigner. i think he would be a...
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so did ronald reagan. >> ronald reagan, 8% growth. >> we're not debating ronald reagan. we're debating obama. >> reagan had a far worse economy than obama inherited. he said he was inheriting it and he said -- but he hasn't fixed it. >> wow. >> stephanie: wow. really reaching now, aren't you? >> they love to revise the reagan and -- as media matters has pointed out there is no comparison in terms of the economy because the fed could just change interest rates which they did, which basically fixed that economy. you know, the fed can't do anymore when you're at zero, you can't go any lower. also, the unemployment completely different story. what hannity never mentions, if you go back to -- we're going way back here. if you're going back to the closing months of the carter/reagan campaign, unemployment was going down under the last six months under jimmy carter. ronald reagan won and it skyrocketed back up. ronald reagan did not inherit climbing unemployment the way barack obama did. ronald reagan actually inherited unemployment on its way down. he got into office and it di
so did ronald reagan. >> ronald reagan, 8% growth. >> we're not debating ronald reagan. we're debating obama. >> reagan had a far worse economy than obama inherited. he said he was inheriting it and he said -- but he hasn't fixed it. >> wow. >> stephanie: wow. really reaching now, aren't you? >> they love to revise the reagan and -- as media matters has pointed out there is no comparison in terms of the economy because the fed could just change interest rates...
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everybody talks about ronald reagan -- ronald reagan did not shrink the size of government. government was mh bigger when reagan left office than when he started. there is this idea that is created out there that does not match the reality. when you get down to local communities where we do compromise, where we make the tough policy decisions, then yes, sometimes you can not do it. >> we are out of time. we're committed to sticking >> we are committed as the department to feinstein counterfeit and unapproved drug cases. together with the u.s. attorney's offices around the country, the criminal divisions, computer crimes and intellectual property section, my office is actively partnering with fda, oci, all the other branches you have heard today. dea, postal service. investigating the wide variety of unlawful trafficking that we see. as we heard this morning, from tim and as we have been hearing throughout the day, the availability of drugs has skyrocketed. anyone with a computer can order drugs on line using search engines, using b2b sites. they can do this for personal use
everybody talks about ronald reagan -- ronald reagan did not shrink the size of government. government was mh bigger when reagan left office than when he started. there is this idea that is created out there that does not match the reality. when you get down to local communities where we do compromise, where we make the tough policy decisions, then yes, sometimes you can not do it. >> we are out of time. we're committed to sticking >> we are committed as the department to feinstein...
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like in 1980, between ronald reagan and president carter. and lloyd benson's swipe at quail. >> jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> and then the moments that seemed to say more, like wh bush looking at his watch. and rick perry's oops remark. and romney's wager, and obama's comment to then-rival hilary. >> he's got two tough competing goals, to be likeable and layout a contrast. it's hard to be likeable when you are the attack dog. >> we have gotten to know barack obama, and there's not a lot of room on his canvas to point, and romney can still show us who he is and where he would lead us. >> the president spends the first part of the week in the battleground state of nevada where he will be doing prep, and mitt romney will be in colorado another swing state where he will practice with ohio senator, rob porter haorb, who is playin president obama. >>> and so what will they say? american voters will weigh their choice and the first of three presidential debates coming up this wednesday night, and can you wa
like in 1980, between ronald reagan and president carter. and lloyd benson's swipe at quail. >> jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> and then the moments that seemed to say more, like wh bush looking at his watch. and rick perry's oops remark. and romney's wager, and obama's comment to then-rival hilary. >> he's got two tough competing goals, to be likeable and layout a contrast. it's hard to be likeable when you are the attack dog. >>...
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ronald reagan turned things around from a worse position. >> no, but what i'm saying, i'm not arguing those points, i'm saying that what happened was clinton is, was there and was able to say, i couldn't have turned it around no one could have and if you look since that speech, that's where obama started to have this, you know, this move up in the lead, i think, what clearly believe we can get into whether the polls are right or wrong about the size of it. clearly leads. what i'm saying about the debates, romney has a chance, there is no filter and he'll be able to make the case and certainly afterwards, president is going to, and pundits like me are going to say what they interpreted for people the fact that the audience is going to be so huge that i don't think that people listen to that interpretation. >> one last one for you, no. in your heart. look, i respect you, i think you're a very honest man, if your heart. do you think that a second obama term, he would stay hard left or he'll move to the center? i say he stays hard left. what do you say? >> look, i think there are a lot of
ronald reagan turned things around from a worse position. >> no, but what i'm saying, i'm not arguing those points, i'm saying that what happened was clinton is, was there and was able to say, i couldn't have turned it around no one could have and if you look since that speech, that's where obama started to have this, you know, this move up in the lead, i think, what clearly believe we can get into whether the polls are right or wrong about the size of it. clearly leads. what i'm saying...
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like in 1980, between then-governor ronald reagan and president jimmy carter. >> there you go again. >> reporter: and lloyd bentsen's swipe at fellow senator dan quayle in 1988. >> i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: and then there are the moments that seemed to say more. like president george h.w. bush looking at his watch in a 1992 debate with bill clinton. >> i can't. >> reporter: texas governor rick perry's oops remark. >> oops. >> rick, i'll tell you what -- >> reporter: romney's high-dollar wager. >> $10,000 bet? >> reporter: and obama's comments to then-rival hillary clinton in 2008. >> you're not old enough to remember that. >> reporter: one thing analysts agree on, the debates may be romney's big chance. >> he's got two very tough competing goals, be likable and lay out a contrast. it's hard to be likable when you're the attack dog. >> we've gotten to know barack obama pretty well. we've seen this president for four years. there's not a lot of room left on his list to paint. mitt ro
like in 1980, between then-governor ronald reagan and president jimmy carter. >> there you go again. >> reporter: and lloyd bentsen's swipe at fellow senator dan quayle in 1988. >> i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: and then there are the moments that seemed to say more. like president george h.w. bush looking at his watch in a 1992 debate with bill clinton. >> i can't....
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the big issue, big change began in 198 1980 that goes with the election of ronald reagan ronald reagan brought with them to washington a very underrated figure in a recent american history, somehow i don't think gets his due as an important person. that's edwin meese because edwin meese at first was in flash and then attorney general. said look, there has been a liberal agenda at the supreme court. there needs to be a conservative agenda at the supreme court. what was that agenda? expand executive power and end racial preferences, speed up execution, welcome religion into the public sphere, and above all, reverse roe v. wade and allow states once again to ban abortion. a big part of the reagan revolution was the arrival of washington of a group of young and committed conservative lawyers who wanted to work in that, on behalf of that agenda, who were two of the best and the brightest of that group? john roberts and samuel alito. 1970 -- in 1985, a memo at the solicitor general's office, alito wrote what can be made of this opportunity to advance the goal of bringing about the eventual o
the big issue, big change began in 198 1980 that goes with the election of ronald reagan ronald reagan brought with them to washington a very underrated figure in a recent american history, somehow i don't think gets his due as an important person. that's edwin meese because edwin meese at first was in flash and then attorney general. said look, there has been a liberal agenda at the supreme court. there needs to be a conservative agenda at the supreme court. what was that agenda? expand...
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he's to work for ronald reagan. is there a way -- are you doing anything to get into the race cycle with obama and romney? host: what do you say? guest: right now i'm excluded from the first debate. the commission is the presidential debate commission and that is private and made up of republicans and democrats with no interest in seeing a third voice on stage. we have filed three lawsuits to get me on stage based on other third-party candidates who have filed lawsuits. there doesn't seem to be much hope. we filed on the antitrust round, something that has not been done before. host: how much do these debates matter and what are you looking for to hearing on wednesday? guest: the debates are tandem tantamount to me having a chance of winning. you can close the lid on winning the election. is winning getting enough votes to cause one of the other two who ends up winning to give more than just lip service to these issues? potentially. i view this as a victory every single day. there are so many people -- i think i spe
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he's to work for ronald reagan. is there a way -- are you doing anything to get into the race cycle with obama and romney? host: what do you say? guest: right now i'm excluded from the first debate. the commission is the presidential debate commission and that is private and made up of republicans and democrats with no interest in seeing a third voice on stage. we have filed three lawsuits to get me on stage based on other third-party candidates who have filed lawsuits. there doesn't seem to be much hope. we filed on the antitrust round, something that has not been done before. host: how much do these debates matter and what are you looking for to hearing on wednesday? guest: the debates are tantamount to me having a chance of winning. you can close the lid on winning the election. is winning getting enough votes to cause one of the other two who ends up winning to give more than just lip service to these issues? potentially. i view this as a victory every single day. there are so many people -- i think i speak on b
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every time we have done this whether it was ronald reagan working with tip o'neill. the ideas from the bowles simpson commission on how to do this. a traditional democratic republican consensus lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works and you can. >> chris: you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. let me say this this way. you can lower tax rates by 20% across the board by closing loopholes and still have preferences for the middle class for things like charitable deductions is or home purchases and healthcare. so what we are saying is people are going to get lower tax rates and therefore they will not send as much money to washington and they will keep it and decide for themselves. when we have done this we created economic growth. >> chris: suppose that the doubters are right and president romney takes office and the math doesn't add up. >> i have run them in congress and they do. >> chris: let's assume it doesn't. the question is what is most important to romney? kale bacscale back in
every time we have done this whether it was ronald reagan working with tip o'neill. the ideas from the bowles simpson commission on how to do this. a traditional democratic republican consensus lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works and you can. >> chris: you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. let me say this this way. you can lower tax rates by 20% across the board by closing loopholes and still...
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ronald reagan repeatedly attacked by president carter for his stance on health care. >> governor reagan, as a matter of fact, began his political career campaigning around this nation against medicare. >> reporter: reagan wins fans and the election by staying cool. >> there you go again. >> reporter: four years later president reagan again uses humor to handle attacks on his age during his debate with walter mondale. >> i want to you know that also i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> reporter: the next election, democratic candidate due can a ki dukakis is asked this question. >> if kity were raped and murdered, would you favor irrevocable death penalty for the killer? >> no, i don't. i think you know that i proposed the death penalty during all of my life. >> reporter: the public sees his answer as cold and dispassionate. that very night his poll numbers dropped. during the 1988 vice presidential debate -- >> senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> reporter: body language play as part in t
ronald reagan repeatedly attacked by president carter for his stance on health care. >> governor reagan, as a matter of fact, began his political career campaigning around this nation against medicare. >> reporter: reagan wins fans and the election by staying cool. >> there you go again. >> reporter: four years later president reagan again uses humor to handle attacks on his age during his debate with walter mondale. >> i want to you know that also i will not make...
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when ronald reagan said, there you go again, it was completely natural to him. as you know, chris, carter was right, he had opposed medicare at the start, but when reagan said, there you go again, it actually sort of discounted everything else that carter had said in that debate. so they've got to be organic, they've got to be natural, they've got to be real. i think everybody at least in the political class who has seen this report is going to be watching the debate to see if we can sort of tick off, oh, that was the prepared zinger. did he bring it off? >> oh, yeah. >> the other thing is he's not very good at this. i mean, you know, i know they don't want him to be spontaneous because he'll say the wrong thing, but delivering a prepared funny line seems to me to be one of the hardest tasks, probably even harder than telling us what's in his tax plan. >> as a journalist, joan, i want your view. suppose you're watching the debate, as we all will be, everybody is going to be watching wednesday night, and you see what is obviously a prefab zinger that doesn't even
when ronald reagan said, there you go again, it was completely natural to him. as you know, chris, carter was right, he had opposed medicare at the start, but when reagan said, there you go again, it actually sort of discounted everything else that carter had said in that debate. so they've got to be organic, they've got to be natural, they've got to be real. i think everybody at least in the political class who has seen this report is going to be watching the debate to see if we can sort of...
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back and we are saying keep it in the first place and every time we have done this, whether it was ronald reagan working with tip o'neill the idea -- there has been a traditional democrat and republican consensus, lower tax rates, broadening the tax base works and you can, but i -- >> i don't, you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't know... it would take too long to go through all the math. let me say it this way: you can lower tax rates 20% across the board, by closing loopholes and still have, the middle class, things like charitable deductions, home purchases, health care. what we are saying is, people are going to get lower tax rates and, therefore, will not send as much money to washington, and will keep it and decide for themselves. we've done it and created economic growth. >> chris: if, suppose, that the doubters are right and president obama takes office and -- >> i've run the numbers in congress, they do. we have five other studies that show -- >> let's assume it doesn't. the question is what is most important to romney, will he scale back on the 20% tax cut for the weal
back and we are saying keep it in the first place and every time we have done this, whether it was ronald reagan working with tip o'neill the idea -- there has been a traditional democrat and republican consensus, lower tax rates, broadening the tax base works and you can, but i -- >> i don't, you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't know... it would take too long to go through all the math. let me say it this way: you can lower tax rates 20% across the board, by closing...
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ronald reagan talked about we don't have political enemies but political opponents. we were never able to look at each other as each o''s emmys. now we have a generation of politicians who honest to god look across the aisle and see the differences. they don't see us as americans. they do view each other as enemies and it's having a terrible, terrible impact in being able to govern the country. we have to focus on how to make this country more competitive in ten years, 20 years. >> it's going to be hard. steve schmidt? >> i think it's fast naying that john heilemann owes five emmys to steve's very existence. >> thank you, thank you steve, thank you very much. it's a great column. >> some man love going on. frank, that's great. thank you so much. >>> up next. they just received their star on hollywood walk of fame. we'll talk to two members of the legendary band heart next on "morning joe." if we want to improve our schools... ...what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transfor
ronald reagan talked about we don't have political enemies but political opponents. we were never able to look at each other as each o''s emmys. now we have a generation of politicians who honest to god look across the aisle and see the differences. they don't see us as americans. they do view each other as enemies and it's having a terrible, terrible impact in being able to govern the country. we have to focus on how to make this country more competitive in ten years, 20 years. >> it's...
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reagan and do a there you go again and make something of that in the ensuing campaign and also outside events, obviously, iran, the hostage situation was fatally damaging to jimmy carter. but -- >> you can only make the case that really three presidential elections of the modern elections, the debates really played an important role. 1980 was one of those. >> 1960. >> 1960 and probably gerald ford's election where he said that the eastern europe was not -- or poland was not dominated by the soviet union, made some difference in a close election. but this is going to be a close election. in spite of what you see in some of the polls, some are close now, the fundamental dynamics of this race are quite close and so its could make a difference in this race. >> thank you so much. >>> up next, is iraq unraveling? a look at where the u.s. policy stands now, next on "andrea mitchell reports." we make a simple thing. a thing that helps you buy other things. but plenty of companies do that. so we make something else. we help make life a little easier, more convenient, more rewarding, more entert
reagan and do a there you go again and make something of that in the ensuing campaign and also outside events, obviously, iran, the hostage situation was fatally damaging to jimmy carter. but -- >> you can only make the case that really three presidential elections of the modern elections, the debates really played an important role. 1980 was one of those. >> 1960. >> 1960 and probably gerald ford's election where he said that the eastern europe was not -- or poland was not...
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same was true with ronald reagan when he debated jimmy carter. it can make a difference. mitt romney needs to come out and be very aggressive about the president's policies and his solutions. and i think he will do real good. >> we know they've been rehearsing zingers or we're told by a "new york times" report this morning that mitt romney has been practicing zingers. i guess practicing them on some of his aides as well. you just talked about substance. others have been focusing on, well, really it's the moments and the zingers that make the difference. which do you think it is? >> there has to be a sense throughout -- at the end of the debate, the viewer will have a sense as to who can be the better leader for the united states. and mitt romney has to come across as, well, he can do a better job leading the united states on domestic policies. so it's an impression that the viewer will get overall. it will be the zingers. but it will be really the impression. who can create the better impression of leadership and that person will win the debate. >> i must say, it was real
same was true with ronald reagan when he debated jimmy carter. it can make a difference. mitt romney needs to come out and be very aggressive about the president's policies and his solutions. and i think he will do real good. >> we know they've been rehearsing zingers or we're told by a "new york times" report this morning that mitt romney has been practicing zingers. i guess practicing them on some of his aides as well. you just talked about substance. others have been focusing...
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remember this, ronald reagan ran for re-election and there were vague illusions to tax reform. did he layout a tax reform plan? he did not. they passed tax reform in 1986. so of course journalists will press for details because it is difficult to make plans up. we can't know precisely how the obama administration proposes to raise the top corporate rate to on 28%. we don't know how mitt romney proposes to lower the corporate rate to 20%, 25%, i forget which one, because they haven't identified the loopholes. >> but that's linchpin of the whole campaign is around taxes, is around lowering taxes and is around -- >> actually, it's not. actually, it's not because if you remember, andrew, in his convention speech, he didn't especially mention his individual tax cut. and he went out on the road last week and said by the way, i'm going to cut tax rates, but don't expect a big tax cut because i'm going to take away deductions. so romney in fact and i've talked to romney's strategists about this, they know that voters don't actually believe that you're going to have a big net tax cut fo
remember this, ronald reagan ran for re-election and there were vague illusions to tax reform. did he layout a tax reform plan? he did not. they passed tax reform in 1986. so of course journalists will press for details because it is difficult to make plans up. we can't know precisely how the obama administration proposes to raise the top corporate rate to on 28%. we don't know how mitt romney proposes to lower the corporate rate to 20%, 25%, i forget which one, because they haven't identified...
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i always remember regular ronald reagan saying there you go again. so we'll see if it's just a muddle for both sides. >> some memorable lines from debate history. thank you. you can find a think jamie's blog at ktvu.com. go to the -- link to jamie's blog at ktvu.com. go to the politics page. >>> governor jerry brown had a busy weekend. coming up for you at 7:48. the bills he just signed into law including one some say will make california streets safer. >>> well, starting today, shopping in san francisco means you have to bring your own bag or get charged for one by the store. the checkout bag ordinance takes effect today at almost all retailers. >> the stores cannot offer plastic bags and if you want a compostable bag you will be charged. >>> hot weather may have played a role in an elderly woman's death in contra costa county. the 86-year-old's body was found at an elementary school. police say the woman had been reported missing in concord a few hours earlier. the exact cause of death is still unclear. but police say high temperatures may have bee
i always remember regular ronald reagan saying there you go again. so we'll see if it's just a muddle for both sides. >> some memorable lines from debate history. thank you. you can find a think jamie's blog at ktvu.com. go to the -- link to jamie's blog at ktvu.com. go to the politics page. >>> governor jerry brown had a busy weekend. coming up for you at 7:48. the bills he just signed into law including one some say will make california streets safer. >>> well,...
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this stuff really matters come and the, you know when ronald reagan waived the big bill of around in a state of the union in the late 80's the democrats couldn't have pleaded the didn't have microsoft word's so they didn't have enough time or whatever but i would say the continuing resolution last december was very fast and there's others and it seems like when it really matters that is when we are the least likely to get the time to read these that we need to defend ourselves as a society and so on. with all these technical led advances good and creating 30 or 40 different variables is good the crucial thing to me is before we pass this huge laws especially if it is in the middle of the night or whatever, what is the political failure that we still can't do this? i would also note it is doable. the affordable care act there were 72 hours on a conference report and free but the in washington i was marveling because it is sort of accepted. nobody argued with it and they couldn't stick their tax thing in at the last minute because who's going to hang out there for 72 hours and they cou
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we can take this country down the right road and i said before, 1980 when ronald reagan became president, he created 50 million jobs in his first term. great economic policy. i hope we can do that again. i need your help and your support. i believe we can turn this country. i think we can turn nevada around. this is what's going to happen and i'm sure proud to be deny states center. i need your help and your vote for november 6. thank you. >> moderator: that concludes tonight's debate. i would like to thank the candidates, representative shelley berkley and center dean heller for participating in tonight's debate. and i'd like to thank you for joining us. goodnight. >> this wednesday president obama and republican presidential candidate mitt romney meet at the university of denver for the first of three debates. watch and engage with c-span spoke to the white house coverage. >> up next we'll bring you another debate with the candidates vying to represent iowa's new fourth congressional district. then rivals in the pharmaceutical industry called for more cooperation in combating counterfe
we can take this country down the right road and i said before, 1980 when ronald reagan became president, he created 50 million jobs in his first term. great economic policy. i hope we can do that again. i need your help and your support. i believe we can turn this country. i think we can turn nevada around. this is what's going to happen and i'm sure proud to be deny states center. i need your help and your vote for november 6. thank you. >> moderator: that concludes tonight's debate. i...